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Tom Murphy Interviews Noam Chomsky December 2005


After Biological, Chemical and
or Nuclear Attacks, it will be
TOO LATE for regrets.


I wish I had reported the dirty dealings of US foreign policy
carried out on behalf of rich and powerful special interests.
The propping up of oppressive regimes, the manipulations and
killings done in the name of the American people
done without their approval or knowledge.
I knew... but said nothing.

Too Late for Regrets

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Mainstream media has not made the general public aware
of the history of US actions in the Middle East. US actions that are the result of US policy makers. These are the people who are responsible, not "America" itself. When Americans point out the unpleasant facts of history they are often unfairly and inaccurately labeled as "anti-American" Mainstream media is to blame for not making the public aware of the history. We must have a fair media so the people can make decisions based on the facts of history. The tactic of labeling For example, the US supported Saddam in the late 1950's and the US supported two coups that put the Ba'ath party into power in the first place. Please donate to Representative Press to help get these facts out to people. You can't explain it away as "you gotta do what you gotta do." or "well it was the cold war". In order to make it clear how wrong US policy makers have been, I use a traditional example of human victims of oppression in the following post. This should hopefully make clear that wrongs have been committed in our name:

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"It is an exaggeration to say that only the most powerful are granted the authority to establish norms of appropriate behavior - for themselves. The authority is sometimes delegated to reliable clients. Thus, Israel's crimes are permitted to establish norms: for example, its regular resort to "targeted killings" of suspects - called "terrorist atrocities" when carried out by the wrong hands. In May 2003, two leading Israeli civil rights attorneys provided "a detailed list of all of the liquidations and all of the attempted assassinations that Israel's security forces carried out" during the al-Aqsa Intifada, from November 2000 through April 2003. Using official and semiofficial records, they found that "Israel carried out no less than 175 liquidation attempts" - one attempt every five days - killing 235 people, of whom 156 were suspected of crimes. "It greatly pains us to say the following," the lawyers wrote, but "the consistent, widespread policy of targeted liquidations bounds on a crime against humanity."
Their judgment is not quite accurate. Liquidation is a crime in the wrong hands, but it is a justified, if regrettable, act of self-defense when carried out by a client, and even establishes norms for the "the boss-man called 'partner,' " who provides authorization" - Noam Chomsky, Hegemony or Survival, p24

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What if they were Jews?

The CIA actively supported the 1963 coup that brought the Ba'ath party to power and the CIA made lists of people it labeled as communists and gave these lists to "the submachine gun-toting Iraqi National Guardsmen". The people on these CIA lists were "jailed, interrogated, and summarily gunned down, according to former U.S. intelligence officials with intimate knowledge of the executions."

Many suspected communists were killed outright, these sources said. Darwish told UPI that the mass killings, presided over by Saddam, took place at Qasr al-Nehayat, literally, the Palace of the End.

A former senior U.S. State Department official told UPI: "We were frankly glad to be rid of them. You ask that they get a fair trial? You have to get kidding. This was serious business." US diplomat James Akins served in the Baghdad Embassy at the time. Mr. Akins said, "I knew all the Ba'ath Party leaders and I liked them ... Sure, some people were rounded up and shot but these were mostly communists so that didn't bother us".

Think about this: What if they were Jews that were rounded up and shot? What if it was Jews whose names we handed over to be killed? Would it be seen as a serious event? Would it be pursued? Would there be a call for prosecution of those responsible?

I hope this comparison can help people start to understand the degree of evil perpetrated by US foreign policies? This is just one example. Does substitution "Jews" in place of "Iraqis" or "Communists" help you understand the degree of evil that US policy makers are responsible for? Are you going to do something now to make a call for justice? "Nazi hunters" worked for decades after the initial crimes of the murderers and facilitators of the deaths of Jews. Just because in the above case those murdered were not Jews but Iraqis and the murders were not Nazis party members but Ba'ath party members and the collaborators were Americans and not Europeans, does that mean you sit on your ass right now and do nothing? I think that if most people realized someone who was responsible for the deaths of Jews had not be brought to justice they would demand something be done about it. This should make you think about the evils US policy makers have gotten away with and why people would be angry to be on the receiving end of these policies. (from blog)

War Crimes & Imperial Fantasies
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What if they were Jews?
War Crimes & Imperial Fantasies A two-disc interview of Noam Chomsky interviewed by David Barsamian

War Crimes & Imperial Fantasies David Barsamian: I interviewed Eqbal Ahmad in August, 1998, a couple of weeks after the Clinton cruise missile attacks on Afghanistan and Sudan, which were, according to the U.S., in response to the bombings of the U.S. embassies in Tanzania and in Kenya. And he said, "Osama bin Laden is a sign of things to come." I asked him to explain. And he responded," The U.S. has sowed in the Middle East and in South Asia very poisonous seeds. These seeds are growing now. Some have ripened and others are ripening. An examination of why they were sown, what has grown, and how they should be reaped is needed. Missiles won’t solve the problem."
Noam Chomsky: That’s a very perceptive statement, expanding what he had pointed out much earlier. By now there is quite good analytic literature on how they developed. The best book on that is by a British investigator, Jason Burke, covercalled Al-Qaeda. He confirms in detail what Eqbal predicted. He reviews a whole series of acts in the development of al-Qaeda. Al-Qaeda is not an organization; it’s a loose network of very loosely affiliated, mostly independent organizations that have a kind of a similar ideology. He calls it a network of networks. And as Eqbal predicted, it became a major symbol and bin Laden himself became a major symbol as a result of these bombings. Before, it hadn’t been.
Take a look at Richard Clarke’s book. He says the same thing about U.S. intelligence. Until 1998, there was no special attention to al-Qaeda or bin Laden. They were kind of marginal factors. In fact, they didn’t even use the word al-Qaeda. But, yes, Eqbal is correct. What Burke points out is that every single U.S. act of violence has been a very welcome gift to bin Laden. He says, every use of violence is a small victory for bin Laden. It helps him mobilize the constituency that will, he hopes, join him in seeing the West as crusaders who are trying to destroy the Muslim world, saying, they must defend themselves. - Noam Chomsky interviewed by David Barsamian War Crimes & Imperial Fantasies the above is just a small sample transcript. The 2 disk set has tons more info.

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